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11439 Apr 6, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] new rules are coming soon - *your input is requested*
11440 Apr 6, 2011   Dennis Van Langen   Re: [PreSmiley] new rules are coming soon - *your input is requested*
11441 Apr 6, 2011   Alan Boodman   the new rules
11442 Apr 7, 2011   Rick Field   NYN @ CIN
11443 Apr 7, 2011   Robert Rescigno   BRN @ PIN
11444 Apr 8, 2011   Alan Boodman   Week 17 update
11445 Apr 8, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] Week 17 update
11446 Apr 9, 2011   Michael Rescigno   SLN@NYN WK 17
11447 Apr 10, 2011   Alan Boodman   NYA-CHA autoplay
11448 Apr 10, 2011   Alan Boodman   random number spreadhseet for today's lottery
11449 Apr 10, 2011   Alan Boodman   1951 draft lottery results
11450 Apr 10, 2011   Patrick Carr   SFN at SLN
11451 Apr 10, 2011   Larry Cupp   Washington cuts
11452 Apr 10, 2011   Rick Field   NYN Roster for 1951
11453 Apr 10, 2011   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [PreSmiley] A's will make no cuts
11454 Apr 10, 2011   Alan Boodman   CHN cuts for 1951
11455 Apr 10, 2011   Robert Rescigno   CHA cuts
11456 Apr 10, 2011   Robert Rescigno   BRN cuts
11457 Apr 10, 2011   John Storer   Reds roster move for 1951
11458 Apr 11, 2011   Alan Boodman   new owner in Detroit
11459 Apr 11, 2011   Larry Cupp   Re: [PreSmiley] new owner in Detroit
11460 Apr 11, 2011   Billy Vanson   Re: [PreSmiley] new owner in Detroit
11461 Apr 11, 2011   Rob Tomlinson   RE: [PreSmiley] new owner in Detroit
11462 Apr 11, 2011   Rob Tomlinson   BOSTON - CUTS
11463 Apr 11, 2011   Billy Vanson   NY Yankees 1951 roster
11464 Apr 11, 2011   Patrick Carr   SLA cut list
11465 Apr 11, 2011   Tim Carr   Re: [PreSmiley] SLA cut list
11466 Apr 11, 2011   Tim Carr   Re: [PreSmiley] new owner in Detroit
11467 Apr 13, 2011   Alan Boodman   cuts reminder
11468 Apr 13, 2011   Jim Pardee   Braves Roster Cuts For 51 Season
11469 Apr 13, 2011   Michael Rescigno   SLN CUTS
11470 Apr 14, 2011   Alan Boodman   files updated; draft unofficially begins now, Tigers are up
11471 Apr 14, 2011   Alan Boodman   IP limit revision for 1950
11472 Apr 14, 2011   Billy Vanson   Re: [PreSmiley] files updated; draft unofficially begins now, Tigers are up
11473 Apr 15, 2011   Alan Boodman   reminder: Tigers are up now
11474 Apr 15, 2011   Alan Boodman   Tigers pick; Braves are up
11475 Apr 15, 2011   Jim Pardee   Pre-Smiley Braves Pick
11476 Apr 15, 2011   Alan Boodman   Pirates are up
11477 Apr 15, 2011   Dennis Van Langen   Re: [PreSmiley] Pirates are up
11478 Apr 15, 2011   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [PreSmiley] A's select Sam Chapman-Red Sox up
11479 Apr 15, 2011   Rob Tomlinson   BOA SELECTS -- SLA UP
11480 Apr 15, 2011   Patrick Carr   Re: [PreSmiley] BOA SELECTS -- SLA UP
11481 Apr 15, 2011   Alan Boodman   CHN pick coming up tonight
11482 Apr 15, 2011   Alan Boodman   Cardinals are up
11483 Apr 15, 2011   Michael Rescigno   Re: [PreSmiley] Cardinals select
11484 Apr 16, 2011   Alan Boodman   Cubs pick; Yankees are up
11485 Apr 16, 2011   Billy Vanson   Yankees select
11486 Apr 16, 2011   Alan Boodman   2 teams pick, Senators are up
11487 Apr 16, 2011   Larry Cupp   Senators pick, Wsox up
11488 Apr 16, 2011   Alan Boodman   White Sox are up
11489 Apr 16, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] White Sox are up
11490 Apr 16, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] White Sox are up
11491 Apr 16, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] Braves up
11492 Apr 16, 2011   Alan Boodman   Braves are up
11493 Apr 16, 2011   Jim Pardee   Braves pick Matt Batts
11494 Apr 16, 2011   Billy Vanson   Re: [PreSmiley] Braves pick Matt Batts
11495 Apr 16, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] Braves pick Matt Batts
11496 Apr 16, 2011   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [PreSmiley] Braves pick Matt Batts
11497 Apr 16, 2011   Jim Pardee   Re: [PreSmiley] Braves pick Matt Batts
11498 Apr 16, 2011   Tim Carr   Re: [PreSmiley] Braves pick Matt Batts
11499 Apr 16, 2011   Alan Boodman   Browns are up
11500 Apr 16, 2011   Jim Pardee   Re: [PreSmiley] Browns are up
11501 Apr 16, 2011   Rick Field   Re: [PreSmiley] Browns are up
11502 Apr 16, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] Browns are up
11503 Apr 17, 2011   Patrick Carr   Re: [PreSmiley] Browns are up
11504 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   files updated
11505 Apr 17, 2011   Dennis Van Langen   Re: [PreSmiley] files updated
11506 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   2 teams pick; Red Sox are up
11507 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   2 teams pick; Red Sox are up
11508 Apr 17, 2011   Rob Tomlinson   BOA SELECTS - PHA UP
11509 Apr 17, 2011   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [PreSmiley] A's take Chuck Stobbs -Cubs up
11510 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   Cubs pick; Senators are up
11511 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   reminder: timed draft begins tomorrow
11512 Apr 17, 2011   Larry Cupp   Senators pick
11513 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   Cardinals are on the clock
11514 Apr 17, 2011   Michael Rescigno   Re: [PreSmiley] Cards pick
11515 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   Pirates are up
11516 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   Pirates pick; Senators are up
11517 Apr 17, 2011   Larry Cupp   Senators pick again
11518 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   White Sox are up
11519 Apr 17, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] White Sox and Dodgers pick - Tigers up
11520 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   Tigers are up
11521 Apr 17, 2011   Tim Carr   Re: [PreSmiley] Tigers are up
11522 Apr 17, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] Tigers are up
11523 Apr 17, 2011   Tim Carr   RE: [PreSmiley] Tigers are up
11524 Apr 17, 2011   Robert Rescigno   RE: [PreSmiley] Tigers are up
11525 Apr 17, 2011   Tim Carr   RE: [PreSmiley] Tigers are up
11526 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   Braves are up
11527 Apr 17, 2011   Jim Pardee   Braves Select Lloyd Merriman
11528 Apr 17, 2011   Rob Tomlinson   RE: [PreSmiley] Braves Select Lloyd Merriman
11529 Apr 17, 2011   Jim Pardee   Re: [PreSmiley] Braves Select Lloyd Merriman
11530 Apr 17, 2011   Jim Pardee   Braves Try Again LOL Select Bobby Hogue RP
11531 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   Pirates pick; Browns are on the clock
11532 Apr 17, 2011   Patrick Carr   Re: [PreSmiley] Pirates pick; Browns are on the clock
11533 Apr 17, 2011   Alan Boodman   files updated
11534 Apr 18, 2011   Alan Boodman   draft officially begins now; Giants are on the clock
11535 Apr 18, 2011   Alan Boodman   Giants pick; A's are on the clock
11536 Apr 18, 2011   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [PreSmiley] A's select Cliff Mapes-BOA up
11537 Apr 18, 2011   Alan Boodman   Red Sox are on the clock
11538 Apr 18, 2011   Rob Tomlinson   BOA SELECTS - CHN UP/CIN ON DECK
11539 Apr 18, 2011   Alan Boodman   2 teams pick; Cardinals are on the clock


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Message #: 11439
Message from: Robert Rescigno
Sent: Apr 6, 2011
Subject: RE: [PreSmiley] new rules are coming soon - *your input is requested*

I'm not favor of disbanding league. I prefer to increase usage if necessary.


From: alan.boodman@...
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 16:29:43 -0400
Subject: [PreSmiley] new rules are coming soon - *your input is requested*

 
For those of you in both leagues, note that the changes mentioned below will affect only Pre-Smiley.
 
 
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For the second time in league history, the maximum roster size & draft limits must be reduced.  If not immediately, then certainly before 1950.  Drafting up to a limit of 30 players per team requires a total of 420 available players (not counting the Undraftable, very low usage players).
 
By my count, the total number of available *draftable* players for the next 3 seasons are:
 
1951: 433
1950: 406
1949: 392
 
By 1949, even drafting up to a limit of only 28 players, we will use up every single available player.
 
Regardless of the overall roster limit, the number of active players will remain at 25.
 
There is another solution (albeit a drastic one) which is to permanently disband one team from each league.  In Smiley, there are 4 teams permanently unowned (CAA, CLA, HON, PHN) which is part of the reason we don't have this problem in that league; in Pre-Smiley there are only 2 unowned teams currently (CLA and PHN).  If we had just 12 teams instead of 14, that would require only 360 draftable players even picking 30 per team.
 
*IF* we choose to disband teams, it would be easy to pick the A.L. team to go -- the one which is currently unowned (DEA) after 1952.  As for the N.L.......?
 
 
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It is likely that at some point there will have to be limits on the number of innings a team can retain following a season and another (higher) limit that a team can possess after a draft or during a season.
 
With the increasing scarcity of players, it is not desirable to have some teams with 1800+ IP going into a draft, while others have far less than 1000 IP.  1500-1600 is easily enough to get through a 154 game season.
 
The biggest hardship (for some teams) would be having to cut useful pitchers in order to comply with the limit.  This would likely be a very temporary hardship, because teams would no longer be able to accumulate as many IP to begin with.
 
If limits are applied, the pre-draft limit would probably be around 1400-1500 and the post-draft and in-season limit would be no more than 1700.  The limits would not factor in the extra usage that some players get, it would be based on exactly what appears on the pitchers' cards.  So a 70 IP pitcher who can actually get 175 IP would be counted only at 70.
 
 
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To help alleviate the usage shortage, it is possible that the rule affecting extra usage for certain (bad) players will be modified to allow even more usage for those players.
 
Your input and ideas regarding the above issues is appreciated.
 
Alan
 

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