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Message #: 1362
Message from: Steve Bivens
Sent: Feb 10, 2001
Subject: Re: [SmileyList] 69 scheduling...
Mike,
Here is my assessment of the schedule you are trying to create:
Let's define a couple of terms to be sure we are on the same page. A "set"
is two teams facing each other. Doesn't matter if it is home/away or for
how many games. "Interdivisional" games are games played by teams in
different divisions, while "divisional" games are played by teams within
their own division (this might not be obvious to everyone reading this).
The schedule you are trying to create requires 52 sets within the division
(4 teams x 13 sets), and 10 sets interdivision. This is a 5.2 to 1 ratio of
sets. On any given week, you can only have 4 divisional sets and 1
interdivisional set. This is a 4 to 1 ratio. It makes sense then, that you
will run out of interdivisional games before you can complete all of your
divisional games.
In other words, you cannot complete the schedule you suggest within 23 weeks
without having teams taking a bye because of the odd number of teams in each
division (while four teams play divisional games, one team sits).
It follows that after 20 weeks, you will have teams sitting...just as you
described in your mail.
While there may be several ways to solve this problem, I believe the odd
number of teams makes byes inevitable unless you play a balanced schedule
within each league.
So, I offer two solutions:
1) Each team plays 3 sets of games against each team within its division (4
teams x 3 sets = 12 weeks, both home and away). Each team also plays 2 sets
of games against teams in the other division (5 teams x 2 sets = 10 weeks).
Each team will have to have 3 byes ( 1 bye for every five weeks of
divisional games). Total weeks to play a season is 25 weeks if no weeks are
skipped.
Notes: Three games series with this schedule are pretty much out the door.
Since you have to play each team in your division 23 times in 6 sets (3 sets
home/3 sets away), it is obvious you have can have only a single 3 game set
against each team in your division. This schedule also requires that you
play interdivisional sets on the same week. If you want 4 sets against any
team then you have to lengthen the schedule by a like number of weeks (Mike,
I see by the schedule that you proposed in your mail that a 4th set was
required against at least one team. This could only be done by adding an
extra week to the season).
2) Each team plays all teams in the LEAGUE an equal 18 games. This requires
9 teams x 3 sets = 27 weeks. I know we voted on the balanced schedule, but
I offer this alternative anyways to give some perspective.
To shorten the first scenario to anything less than 25 weeks would require
playing more than 4 games a week by one manager.
I believe you can manipulate the number of games in any given set to get
your home and away games to come out right.
I hope I have laid this out in a clear, understandable way. I will be happy
to field questions and/or consider options that I may have missed...
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "michael tomeo" <mtomeo@...>
To: <SmileyList@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [SmileyList] 69 scheduling...
> main thing to remember is its all 3 and 4 game series. with that in mind,
here
> is the breakdown on games for home and away for each team....sorry if its
not
> in a nice chart size format to make it easier to follow...
>
> 23 week season, so there are 22 weeks with 7 games (one 3 and one 4 game
> series) and the 23rd week is 8 games (2-4 game series) for the 162 total.
Each
> team must get one home and one road series in each week. TO compound
things
> there must be at least one interdivision set each series (or 2 per week).
There
> are a total of 100 interdivision series so that averages out to just about
4.25
> per week.
>
> Trying to balance not finishing up with a team too early in the year with
> having to have a home and road series and only having 3 or 4 game sets
against
> some teams and it does become a problem...... I am ok for about 20 weeks
but
> then I run into availability problems those last few weeks. Last year was
not
> bad because of the even number of teams in each league and when we did do
> interleague play it was all teams at the same time.
>
> The "chart" has teams numbered 1-10 (both leagues will use the same
format).
> Teams will be placed based on previous season's standings, that is the
east
> winner is team #1, west winner #6, and team #10 would be the last place
team in
> the west. I wll then fill in team names when I go to create the schedule
for
> importing into strat.
>
> this is road game only chart can cross reference for home games, list is
in
> type of series....3-4-4 means one 3 and 2 4 game sets). all interdivision
games
> are 3-4 so I will not list them. each team should get 2 sets of 3-4-4, one
> 3-3-3-3 and one 4-4-4 both home and road.
>
> #1: v2 3-3-3-3, v3 3-4-4, v4 4-4-4, v5 3-4-4
> #2 v1, 3-4-4 v3 4-4-4 v4 3-4-4 v5 3-3-3-3
> #3 v1 3-3-3-3 v2 3-4-4 v4 3-4-4 v5 4-4-4
> #4 v1 3-4-4 v2 4-4-4 v3 3-3-3-3 v5 3-4-4
> #5 v1 4-4-4 v2 3-4-4 v3 3-4-4 v4 3-3-3-3
>
> #6 v7 3-3-3-3 v8 3-4-4 v9 4-4-4 v10 3-4-4
> #7 v6 3-4-4 v8 4-4-4 v9 3-4-4 v10 3-3-3-3
> #8 v6 3-3-3-3 v7 3-4-4 v9 3-4-4 v10 4-4-4
> #9 v6 3-4-4 v7 4-4-4 v8 3-3-3-3 v10 3-4-4
> #10 v6 4-4-4 v7 3-4-4 v8 3-4-4 v9 3-3-3-3
>
> hope this is clear enough if questions let me know.........
> I will work on it some more this weekend as well
> Mike
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