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Ben Lea |
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Ben Lea |
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Alan Bosslet |
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Frank Pennylegion |
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Ray Cappocchi |
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Ben Lea |
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Message #: 2144
Message from: Ben Lea
Sent: Jun 3, 2001
Subject: RE: [SmileyList] usage updates
> Last year we threatened to implement penalties for owners who
> disregarded the rules in the area of usage, but we never did (despite
> the fact that the Constitution seems to require it) because we couldn't
> think of what to do.
> We still haven't come up with penalties to apply yet (but we probably
> will), and since nobody knows how severe those penalties may be, it
> would be smart not to take the chance of finding out.
> For example, we did think of penalizing an owner 1 draft pick (beginning
> with round 1) for each player overused. You wouldn't really "lose" the
> pick, you'd just get it later in the draft. Any other ideas on how to
> handle overusage & penalties are welcome.
Alan,
This doesn't sound like what I remember from the discussion last year, but
I'm completely willing to assume that my memory is failing. What I thought
we were talking about was that for every player who a team over-used, their
draft picks (in all rounds) would be moved down that number of *slots*, not
that number of *rounds*. So, for example, if I used two players too much,
and I had the 5th pick in each round, I would then be moved down to the 7th
spot in each round.
The other thing I vividly remember was that you said you'd decided not to
punish teams for over-using a player by 3 PA. (Since I'm fairly certain the
guy you were talking about last year was Sandy Alomar for me, I appreciate
that!) So, what I'd suggest is graduating the penalty depending on amount
of over-use. For each player you over-use by less than some small
percentage, say 5% (about 35-40 PA for an everyday player or 10-15 IP for a
starting pitcher), then you lose one *spot* in the first round that you
still have a pick (and the first round only). For each player you over-use
by MORE than that percentage, you lose one *round*, and get supplemental
picks in the next round (at the same spot in the draft) to make up for it.
Here's an (all-too-close to real-life) example: Pete Ward has about 250 PA
for the Sox this year (I'm away from my home computer this weekend, so I'll
fudge the exact numbers). I "win" the lottery to the tune of the 3rd pick
overall in the 1st round, but in each of the other rounds, I choose 8th. If
I use Ward 260 PA, I've over-used him by 4% (4% of 250 is 10, I think).
Then, instead of choosing 3rd in the 1st round, I choose 4th. But, if I use
him 300 PA, I've over-used him by more than 5%, so I'd sacrifice the 1st
round pick. I'd have my regular pick in the 2nd round (8th), as well as a
second, supplemental pick right after that. (If I've traded away my first
round pick, then all of this applies to the 2nd round, or whatever the
highest round I have left is.) And, if I've over-used TWO players, then I'd
move down 2 *slots* or 2 *rounds*, whichever is appropriate.
Where I'm not sure how this would work is when you have multiple teams
with usage penalties. I'd guess that each team moves down one, which means
that if you have 4 teams in a row that have (< 5%) usage penalties, they'd
all move down one slot, and the first team below them that didn't have a
usage penalty would move up 4 slots.
Anyway, just an idea -- to be used or abused as you all see fit.
Y'all's (can you tell I'm back in NC visiting family?),
Ben |
