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29435 Nov 12, 2013   Steve Bivens   Re: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals
29436 Nov 12, 2013   Jonathan Fellows   Re: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals
29437 Nov 12, 2013   James Pardee   KC Royals CM Week 17 attached..
29438 Nov 12, 2013   Charlie Steinhice   BAA @ TOA Week 16 (plus Week 17 CM)
29439 Nov 12, 2013   Charlie Steinhice   RE: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals
29440 Nov 14, 2013   Billy Vanson   Dodgers comp mgr
29441 Nov 14, 2013   Michael Tomeo   boa@nya
29442 Nov 14, 2013   Ben Lea   White Sox @ Baltimore
29443 Nov 14, 2013   Thomas Treece   Florida @ Pittsburgh
29444 Nov 14, 2013   Herb Wilson   CON@SFN
29445 Nov 15, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 16 update
29446 Nov 15, 2013   Mike Mashanic   DEAOAA93
29447 Nov 15, 2013   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Braves
29448 Nov 15, 2013   Robert Rescigno   RE: [SmileyList] Week 16 update
29449 Nov 15, 2013   Mike Mashanic   PINMON96
29450 Nov 15, 2013   Rick Field   ATN (CM) Week 17
29451 Nov 15, 2013   Gil Smith   Cubs at St. Louis results and CM
29452 Nov 16, 2013   Alan Boodman   MLA-BOA autoplay
29453 Nov 16, 2013   Jonathan Fellows   NY Mets week 16 - NYNFLN096
29454 Nov 16, 2013   Jeff Tripodi   Mariners 2, Brewers 1
29455 Nov 16, 2013   Michael Rescigno   sln & tex results & CM's
29456 Nov 16, 2013   Jeff Tripodi   Mariners CM
29457 Nov 17, 2013   Alan Boodman   MNA-TEA autoplay
29458 Nov 17, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 17 begins
29459 Nov 17, 2013   Alan Boodman   Thanksgiving break
29460 Nov 17, 2013   Andrew Kennedy   SMILEY-OAA @ BOA
29461 Nov 17, 2013   Andrew Kennedy   SMILEY-OAA CM Week 18
29462 Nov 18, 2013   Patrick Carr   SFN at ATN
29463 Nov 18, 2013   Alan Boodman   Blue Jays @ Twins
29464 Nov 19, 2013   Steve Bivens   Expos at Reds Week 17
29465 Nov 19, 2013   Rick Field   ATN @ NYN
29466 Nov 20, 2013   Michael Tomeo   sdn@chn
29467 Nov 20, 2013   Robert Rescigno   NYA @ TEA and CM
29468 Nov 21, 2013   Mike Mashanic   PINSFN100
29469 Nov 21, 2013   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Dodgers
29470 Nov 21, 2013   Mike Mashanic   DEAKCA100
29471 Nov 21, 2013   Alan Boodman   CHA and KCA autopplays
29472 Nov 21, 2013   Jonathan Fellows   NYNMON103
29473 Nov 21, 2013   Thomas Treece   Florida @ St.Louis
29474 Nov 21, 2013   Herb Wilson   CON@SDN - Week 17
29475 Nov 22, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 17 update
29476 Nov 22, 2013   Patrick Carr   SFN CM for week 18
29477 Nov 22, 2013   Michael Tomeo   boa@toa
29478 Nov 22, 2013   Billy Vanson   *** RESULTS *** DODGERS @ MARLIN
29479 Nov 22, 2013   Billy Vanson   DODGERS comp mgr
29480 Nov 22, 2013   Rick Field   ATN (CM) Week 18
29481 Nov 22, 2013   Gil Smith   Cubs at Pitt and CM
29482 Nov 23, 2013   Alan Boodman   MLA-DEA autoplay
29483 Nov 23, 2013   Jeff Tripodi   Mariners 3, Orioles 0
29484 Nov 23, 2013   James Pardee   KC Royals CM Week 18 attached..
29485 Nov 24, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 17 autoplays
29486 Nov 24, 2013   Mike Mashanic   Re: [SmileyList] Week 17 autoplays [1 Attachment]
29487 Nov 24, 2013   Alan Boodman   Re: [SmileyList] Week 17 autoplays
29488 Nov 24, 2013   Mark Simons   Milwaukee @ Detroit
29489 Nov 26, 2013   Alan Boodman   trade announcement
29490 Nov 26, 2013   Alan Boodman   trade deadline
29491 Nov 29, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 18 CM update
29492 Nov 29, 2013   Jeff Tripodi   Mariners CM (revised)
29493 Nov 30, 2013   Alan Boodman   temporary ownership change in Chicago
29494 Nov 30, 2013   Thomas Treece   Re: [SmileyList] Week 18 CM update
29495 Nov 30, 2013   Billy Vanson   Los Angeles computer manager
29496 Dec 1, 2013   Michael Rescigno   TEX & SLN WK 18 CM
29497 Dec 1, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 18 begins
29498 Dec 1, 2013   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [SmileyList] A's CM OK for Texas series
29499 Dec 1, 2013   Andrew Kennedy   SMILEY-OAA @ MLA
29500 Dec 1, 2013   Andrew Kennedy   SMILEY-OAA CM Week 19
29501 Dec 1, 2013   Patrick Carr   SFN at LAN
29502 Dec 1, 2013   Herb Wilson   Re: [SmileyList] Week 18 begins
29503 Dec 2, 2013   Thomas Treece   Florida @ Montreal
29504 Dec 2, 2013   Thomas Treece   Fw: Florida @ Montreal
29505 Dec 2, 2013   James Pardee   KCA@NYA Drops 3 To Yanks
29506 Dec 2, 2013   Rick Field   ATN @ FLN
29507 Dec 3, 2013   Michael Tomeo   boa@dea
29508 Dec 4, 2013   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Pirates
29509 Dec 4, 2013   Robert Rescigno   NYA @ BAA and CM
29510 Dec 5, 2013   Steve Bivens   Expos at Rockies Week 18
29511 Dec 5, 2013   Alan Boodman   Blue Jays @ Mariners
29512 Dec 5, 2013   Herb Wilson   CIN wins 3 of 4 against the visiting Rockies
29513 Dec 5, 2013   Michael Tomeo   sdn@atn
29514 Dec 6, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 18 update
29515 Dec 6, 2013   Alan Boodman   trade deadline reminder and trade announcements
29516 Dec 6, 2013   Mark Simons   Milwaukee @ Toronto
29517 Dec 6, 2013   Billy Vanson   *** RESULTS *** DODGERS @ METS
29518 Dec 6, 2013   Billy Vanson   dodgers manager
29519 Dec 6, 2013   Michael Rescigno   SLN@SDN WK 18 & WK 19 CM
29520 Dec 6, 2013   Michael Rescigno   Re: [SmileyList] SLN@SDN WK 18 & WK 19 CM
29521 Dec 6, 2013   Rick Field   ATN (CM) Week 19
29522 Dec 6, 2013   Gil Smith   Cubs at Giants and CM
29523 Dec 7, 2013   Patrick Carr   SFN CM for week 19
29524 Dec 7, 2013   Mike Mashanic   DEAMNA107
29525 Dec 7, 2013   Mike Mashanic   PINCHN110
29526 Dec 7, 2013   Jonathan Fellows   NYNSLN110
29527 Dec 7, 2013   Jonathan Fellows   CHABOA107 - White sweeps Red
29528 Dec 7, 2013   Michael Rescigno   TEX@OAA WK 18 & WK 19 CM
29529 Dec 7, 2013   Jeff Tripodi   Mariners results
29530 Dec 7, 2013   Charlie Steinhice   BAA @ TEA Week 18 (plus Week 19 CM)
29531 Dec 8, 2013   Alan Boodman   Week 19 begins
29532 Dec 8, 2013   Alan Boodman   holiday vacation schedule
29533 Dec 8, 2013   Alan Boodman   trade deadline is this week
29534 Dec 8, 2013   Michael Tomeo   attn DEA boa manager
29535 Dec 8, 2013   Jeff Tripodi   Mariners CM vs Baltimore


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Message #: 29435
Message from: Steve Bivens
Sent: Nov 12, 2013
Subject: Re: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals

They could have just as well made the $ (clutch) kick in with zero out
instead of two out. But then they couldn't have given it the sexy name
"clutch" rating.
I sit here thinking how this rating would look with zero out and I find it
mind bending...

On another note I remember Strat claiming that there was statistical
evidence of clutch hitting but not of clutch pitching and that was their
rational for having one and not the other. And then a few years later they
come out with clutch pitching. Go figure.

sb

Original email:
-----------------
From: Alan Boodman alan.boodman@...
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:39:48 -0500
To: SmileyList@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals


I may have to go back and check the old Elias Analysts (or
baseball-reference or Retrosheet) situational stats, but since Strat chose
RISP 2-out as the definition, and made it such that their alteration only
affects batting average (all $ hits given or taken away are singles) I
assumed that they used that same definition -- batting average with RISP &
2-outs -- to determine who gets the $ and who loses.

But I could surely be wrong, as who knows exactly how or why Strat does
anything? :-)

Alan



From: Jonathan Fellows
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:24 PM
To: SmileyList
Subject: Re: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals



I remember reading somewhere that the clutch rating is based upon some
combination of RBI vs SLG. Which is why leadoff type hitters have terrible
clutch ratings even if they have great BA w/RISP



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Alan Boodman <alan.boodman@...>
wrote:



I am in total agreement about Carter and felt that way long before he
showed up on my Strat-O-Matic team. :-)

The guy came to the plate with a zillion men on base during his career,
delivered at a rate no better than anyone else and probably worse -- I'm
sure this has been studied to death -- and somewhere there are people who
probably think he should be in the Hall of Fame because of his tenacity,
courage and fortitude (or whatever).

Looking at his cards over the years, Strat is either onto the guy, or
deliberately isn't doing him any favors with their weak definition of '$'
clutch.

Alan


From: sgbivens@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:05 PM
To: smileylist@yahoogroups.com ; smileylist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals


Joe Carter benefitted from RBI opportunities more than any player alive.
I always wondered if Strat created the 'clutch hit' rating (read: RBI
adjustor rating) just for him.
He was NOT a clutch hitter despite his reputation.
Your are correct when you use the word "alleged".

Just one guy's opinion...

Steve B.

Original email:
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From: Alan Boodman alan.boodman@...
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:58:29 -0500
To: SmileyList@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SmileyList] Blue Jays @ Royals [1 Attachment]

Some surgical split card power gives the opener to the Royals, but the
Jays
come back with an incomplete choke in the game 2 LOB-a-thon and then win
going away in the finale despite some unsteady starting pitching....

Game 1: We had just recovered to take a 4-3 lead in the 6th when
back-to-back surgical split cards leading off the K.C. portion of the
inning erased that lead in record time. The crushing blow came via a
gopher from slugging infielder Mariano Duncan and sent Todd Stottlemyre to
the showers. With the TOA bullpen pitchers having long since proven their
capability for failure, Juan Guzman was given a try -- and now we can add
his name to the list.

Another fortuitous 2-out split card for the home team became a 3-run
gopher
for elderly George Brett, and the rout was complete. Final score: 8-4.
Steve Howe got the relief win for the Royals, his first of the year.

================================================================

Game 2: Joe Carter had a particularly dismal couple of games to cap this
series; today in just the first 4 innings, the alleged clutch superstar
came to the plate 3 times with 6 men on base (4 RISP) and less than 2 outs
and struck out each time.

Thanks to having a ton and a half of baserunners and a lineup not quite
100% of which was clutch chokers (but 6 LOB *in scoring position* in just
4
innings), we built an early 2-0 lead for Jack Morris who held it until a
surgical rally in which 5 Royals in a row reached base in the 7th tied it
up.

Our one reliable (in a *good* way) reliever, Paul Kilgus, sacrificed part
of his rare and precious usage to induce a critical DP that terminated the
surgery, but he had to depart before the contest went into overtime. In
the 10th, pinch hitter Kevin McReynolds tripled home John Olerud with his
first timely hit of the 1993 season, then raced across the plate with an
insurance run when Mitch Williams uncorked a wild pitch.

Final score: 4-2 in 10. Duane Ward got the W with 2 perfect innings (!) in
which the ball never left the infield. Over his last 7 outings, Ward has
lowered his ERA from a disastrous 5.40 to a slightly less disastrous 4.57
and at this rate might get it down to where it deserves to be sometime
next
January.

================================================================

Game 3: Bobby Witt wobbled around but allowed nothing other than singles
and walks (though plenty of them) for 6.2 innings, and today it was the
Royals' turn to edge us out in the LOB category, 12-8. Witt combined with
erstwhile comic reliever Gene Harris on the shutout, with #2 right-handed
reliever Harris reducing his ERA to a season-low (almost) 4.71!

Toronto's offense started off superbly against K.C. batting practice
starter Tim Leary, as 5 of the first 9 Blue Jay batters got hits and hit
for the cycle in the process. Then we slammed on the brakes and let him
hang around until the middle innings. Leary ended up permitting 8 runs
despite our kid glove treatment, but 4 of those resulted from sabotage
defense.

After Brett's single in the 6th the Royals got no further hits, though
Witt
did helpfully load the bases (walk, walk, walk) with 2 outs in the 7th.
Harris then came in and fanned Babe Duncan on 3 pitches and permitted only
1 baserunner (a free pass with 2 outs in the 9th) in his
uncharacteristically effective 2.1 inning stint. Final score: 8-0.

Alan

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