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| 4019 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
Thoughts from Minnesota |
| 4020 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
RE: [SmileyList] Cubs on the clock |
| 4021 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Bob Lind |
Re: [SmileyList] Thoughts from Minnesota |
| 4022 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Rich Anderson |
Re: [SmileyList] Cardinals on the clock |
| 4023 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Padres on the clock |
| 4024 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] Padres on the clock |
| 4025 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Pirates on the clock |
| 4026 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
draft reminder |
| 4027 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [SmileyList] Of playing positions |
| 4028 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
SOM software help? |
| 4029 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
wrl1901 |
Team Saver kits |
| 4030 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] SOM software help? |
| 4031 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [SmileyList] SOM software help? |
| 4032 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
the next pick deadline |
| 4033 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [SmileyList] SOM software help? |
| 4034 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] SOM software help? |
| 4035 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [SmileyList] SOM software help? |
| 4036 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Dave Jackson |
Pirates select.............. |
| 4037 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] Pirates select.............. |
| 4038 |
Feb 25, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Washington Pick |
| 4039 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Royals on the clock |
| 4040 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Mike Rodriguez |
Re: [SmileyList] Royals on the clock |
| 4041 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
White Sox on the clock |
| 4042 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
White Sox pick, Cincinnati on the clock |
| 4043 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Cincinnati picks, Yankees are up |
| 4044 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Yankees pick... |
| 4045 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Mets on the clock |
| 4046 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
Mets 1st first round pick |
| 4047 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
RE: [SmileyList] Mets 1st first round pick |
| 4048 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
Mets next pick |
| 4049 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
RE: [SmileyList] Mets next pick |
| 4050 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Milwaukee on the clock |
| 4051 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Frank Pennylegion |
Re: [SmileyList] Milwaukee on the clock |
| 4052 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
White Sox on the clock |
| 4053 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
White Sox pick |
| 4054 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Padres on the clock |
| 4055 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
RE: [SmileyList] Padres on the clock |
| 4056 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
I am geek! |
| 4057 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] Padres on the clock |
| 4058 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
St. Louis is on the clock |
| 4059 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Jeff Juenger |
Re: [SmileyList] St. Louis is on the clock |
| 4060 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Dodgers on the clock |
| 4061 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
League files updated |
| 4062 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
We are the world(everybody in SMILEY swaying back and forth with our arms around each other) |
| 4063 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
things that make you go hmmmm..... |
| 4064 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [SmileyList] things that make you go hmmmm..... |
| 4065 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [SmileyList] things that make you go hmmmm..... |
| 4066 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] things that make you go hmmmm..... |
| 4067 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
HAL for WAA |
| 4068 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
RE: [SmileyList] Royals on the clock |
| 4069 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [SmileyList] things that make you go hmmmm..... |
| 4070 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [SmileyList] HAL for WAA |
| 4071 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
Wayne Granger |
| 4072 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] Wayne Granger |
| 4073 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Brandon Colvin |
Re: [SmileyList] things that make you go hmmmm..... |
| 4074 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [SmileyList] Wayne Granger |
| 4075 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
Re: [SmileyList] Dodgers on the clock |
| 4076 |
Feb 26, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Twins on the clock |
| 4077 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
More proof I am a geek |
| 4078 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
Twins Need help! |
| 4079 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
Twins Select |
| 4080 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
White Sox on the clock |
| 4081 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
ALCS Game 1 |
| 4082 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
The future is now in Chicagoland! |
| 4083 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Royals on the clock |
| 4084 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Mike Rodriguez |
Re: [SmileyList] Royals on the clock |
| 4085 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [SmileyList] Royals on the clock |
| 4086 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Senators on the clock |
| 4087 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Twins on the clock |
| 4088 |
Feb 27, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
draft update |
| 4089 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Twins, Reds pick; Yankees on the clock |
| 4090 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Re: [SmileyList] Twins, Reds pick; Yankees on the clock |
| 4091 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Yankees pick; Mets on the clock |
| 4092 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
Mets Pick |
| 4093 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
White Sox on the clock |
| 4094 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
RE: [SmileyList] White Sox on the clock |
| 4095 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Dodgers on the clock |
| 4096 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
NLCS Game 1 |
| 4097 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Brandon Colvin |
Re: [SmileyList] Yankees pick; Mets on the clock |
| 4098 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
ALCS Game 2 |
| 4099 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
postseason updates |
| 4100 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
RE: [SmileyList] ALCS Game 2 |
| 4101 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
Re: [SmileyList] ALCS Game 2 |
| 4102 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Padres on the clock for 2 picks |
| 4103 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
league files updated |
| 4104 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Re: [SmileyList] Padres on the clock for 2 picks |
| 4105 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Brewers on the clock |
| 4106 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Frank Pennylegion |
Re: [SmileyList] Brewers on the clock |
| 4107 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Senators on the clock |
| 4108 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
Senators pick |
| 4109 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Dodgers on the clock |
| 4110 |
Feb 28, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
Re: [SmileyList] Dodgers on the clock |
| 4111 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Pirates on the clock |
| 4112 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Dave Jackson |
Pirates select.... |
| 4113 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Twins on the clock |
| 4114 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Re: [SmileyList] postseason updates |
| 4115 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
Re: [SmileyList] Twins select |
| 4116 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Royals on the clock |
| 4117 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
NLCS game 2 |
| 4118 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
ALCS Game 3 |
| 4119 |
Mar 1, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
playoff files updated |
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Message #: 4019
Message from: Rick Ramacier
Sent: Feb 25, 2002
Subject: Thoughts from Minnesota
As my home computer is currently down, I just read all the stuff sent
out on Sunday about trading and road v. home records.
I have nothing to really say about trading at this time.
As far as road v. home and the discussion in this league, I have a
few things to say...
First of all, whether it is ment to or not, the discussion, with the
exception of Scott from LA seems to suggest that the Twins by virture
of playing .400 ball at home in the SMILEY 1970 season, should have
finished that season with an overall .400 record. That be would a
record of 64 and 98 for a team that was 98 and 64 in real life!
The SMILEY Twins had .700 record on the road - which is closer to
their real record than their home record.
In 1969, the SMILEY Twins had a much more balanced record. I expect
that in 1971 and on, the SMILEY Twins will have a more balanced
record.
Yet it seems that looking at this particular issue over the long term
is not what is happenning now, as Alan sees a need to deal with it
now with possible proposals.
I would personally expect most players who have a good team - as I
did this past SMILEY season, to do well against HAL. Thus, have a
good road record.
I would also expect - with exceptions - those same good teams to do
well with HAL at the helm. I had one of those exceptions in 1970.
It is interesting to note, that 1970 SMLIEY Twins - a team with a lot
of good talent by strat standards - lost an unexpected number of
games at home to bottom division teams. This will happen once in a
while in a sim game that is diced based. Thus, I had a lousy home
record with a good team. I would disagree that it should logically
follow that just because a good strat team has an unexpectedly bad
season at home - where HAL is the manager - that this same good strat
team should have a bad record on the road when managed by a human.
But, this seems to be the theme of the discussion.
In short, it would seem to me that at least one member of SMILEY has
questioned whether or not the record of at least the Minnesota Twins -
and possibly others - in 1970 is in fact, legitimate.
I would rather confront this in a more open and direct manner.
Therefore, if anyone in this league thinks someone is cheating -
let's deal with it directly. This league has a really good concept
and set up. It should not be changed to try and deal with a
preception or undertone of cheating.
It is clear that someone(s) thinks someone(s) is being less than
honest in the playing of their games.
If any of you think I am doing this. I would appreciate an e-mail to
me at ramacier@... to that effect so we can discuss it
directly.
Alan, I oppose all of the options you have proposed. If the league
really thinks this is problem, then maybe those owner(s) that other
owner(s) think are untrustworthy need to depart. If that includes me
so be it.
No one should have to be a in league with people who they don't
trust. By the same token, if one or some of us are not trusted, why
would we bother?
As I have said earlier, I think this is a great league with a great
concept. I think the people in it are all honest players. But clearly
not all of us feel that way about each other.
One final thing: I have played enough strat and have taken enough
statistical courses to know that using one season such as 1970 to say
their is a road home problem such has been suggested simply can't be
founded. But, now that the spector of cheating has been raised, it
will be hard to put it back in the bottle, and full trust will hard
to get back too.
Hoepfully we will all find a way to move on and out this behind us.
Rick |
