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4480 Apr 16, 2002   Frank Pennylegion   Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations
4481 Apr 16, 2002   Alan Boodman   Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations
4482 Apr 16, 2002   Frank Pennylegion   Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations
4483 Apr 16, 2002   Scott Campbell   LA at Cin
4484 Apr 17, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] LA at Cin
4485 Apr 17, 2002   Raul Camacho   SFN@MON
4486 Apr 18, 2002   Alan Boodman   how trades work
4487 Apr 18, 2002   Larry Cupp   WAACHA32
4488 Apr 18, 2002   Michael Skiffington   baa v kca
4489 Apr 17, 2002   Scott Campbell   Re: [SmileyList] LA at Cin
4490 Apr 19, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] LA at Cin
4491 Apr 19, 2002   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Dodgers
4492 Apr 19, 2002   Michael Tomeo   Padres and Giants
4493 Apr 19, 2002   Chris Kohlwes   Yanks at Senators
4494 Apr 19, 2002   Bob Lind   MBB@OAA
4495 Apr 20, 2002   Rich Anderson   SLN @ SDN
4496 Apr 20, 2002   Alan Boodman   Week 5 update
4497 Apr 20, 2002   Alan Bosslet   CUBS CM
4498 Apr 20, 2002   Alan Boodman   Tigers @ Red Sox
4499 Apr 20, 2002   Michael Tomeo   boston at baltimore
4500 Apr 20, 2002   Ray Cappocchi   RE: [SmileyList] boston at baltimore
4501 Apr 20, 2002   Dave Jackson   Pin @ Nyn
4502 Apr 20, 2002   Ray Cappocchi   NYN@ATN27
4503 Apr 20, 2002   Ray Cappocchi   Mets CM6
4504 Apr 21, 2002   Steve Bivens   Montreal at St. Louis Week 5
4505 Apr 21, 2002   Alan Boodman   Week 6 begins
4506 Apr 21, 2002   Mike Rodriguez   KC @ BOS
4507 Apr 21, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 begins
4508 Apr 21, 2002   Scott Campbell   LA at NY
4509 Apr 21, 2002   Steve Bivens   Cincinnati at Montreal Week 6
4510 Apr 21, 2002   Steve Bivens   Updated Montreal Manager
4511 Apr 22, 2002   Rick Ramacier   Re: [SmileyList] MNA@WAA
4512 Apr 22, 2002   Frank Pennylegion   Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 begins
4513 Apr 22, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Updated Montreal Manager
4514 Apr 22, 2002   Ben Lea   White Sox @ A's
4515 Apr 23, 2002   Alan Boodman   Padres @ Reds
4516 Apr 23, 2002   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Expos
4517 Apr 23, 2002   Larry Cupp   WAAKCA39
4518 Apr 24, 2002   Alan Bosslet   STUPID CUBS BULLPEN
4519 Apr 24, 2002   Raul Camacho   SFN@SLN
4520 Apr 25, 2002   Alan Boodman   Tigers @ Brewers
4521 Apr 25, 2002   Michael Tomeo   boston at minnesota
4522 Apr 26, 2002   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees at Tigers
4523 Apr 26, 2002   Larry Cupp   road vs home record
4524 Apr 26, 2002   Brandon Colvin   ATNPIN
4525 Apr 27, 2002   Rich Anderson   SLN @ ATN
4526 Apr 27, 2002   Alan Boodman   Week 6 update
4527 Apr 27, 2002   Bob Lind   Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 update
4528 Apr 27, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 update
4529 Apr 27, 2002   Michael Skiffington   BAA v CHA
4530 Apr 27, 2002   Ray Cappocchi   NYN@SDN36
4531 Apr 27, 2002   Steve Bivens   Montreal at Chicago Week 6
4532 Apr 27, 2002   Dave Jackson   Pin @ Sfn
4533 Apr 28, 2002   Alan Boodman   Week 7 begins
4534 Apr 28, 2002   Mike Rodriguez   Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 begins
4535 Apr 28, 2002   Mike Rodriguez   KC Manager
4536 Apr 28, 2002   Steve Bivens   Montreal Manager Week 7
4537 Apr 28, 2002   Steve Bivens   Montreal at San Francisco Week 7
4538 Apr 28, 2002   Scott Campbell   LA CM
4539 Apr 29, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Export
4540 Apr 29, 2002   Brandon Colvin   Re: [SmileyList] LA CM
4541 Apr 29, 2002   Ben Lea   White Sox @ Senators
4542 Apr 29, 2002   Frank Pennylegion   Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 begins
4543 Apr 29, 2002   Alan Boodman   Tigers @ White Sox
4544 Apr 29, 2002   Scott Campbell   LA at Chicago
4545 Apr 30, 2002   Raul Camacho   SFN@PIN
4546 Apr 30, 2002   Raul Camacho   SF HAL
4547 Apr 30, 2002   beckjzz   A nice game
4548 Apr 30, 2002   Steve Bivens   SMILEY Virus Warning
4549 Apr 30, 2002   Larry Cupp   waabaa46
4550 Apr 30, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY Virus Warning
4551 Apr 30, 2002   Rick Ramacier   Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 begins
4552 May 1, 2002   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Expos
4553 May 2, 2002   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees at Twins
4554 May 2, 2002   Alan Boodman   SMILEY web site will be down
4555 May 2, 2002   Michael Tomeo   boston at kc
4556 May 3, 2002   Michael Skiffington   BAA v OAA
4557 May 3, 2002   Mike Rodriguez   KC @ Mil
4558 May 3, 2002   Rick Ramacier   MNA@BOA
4559 May 4, 2002   Alan Boodman   Week 7 update
4560 May 4, 2002   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 update
4561 May 4, 2002   Michael Tomeo   san diego and st louis
4562 May 4, 2002   Michael Tomeo   boston manager
4563 May 4, 2002   Rich Anderson   SLN @ NYN
4564 May 4, 2002   Ray Cappocchi   NYN@CIN43
4565 May 4, 2002   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees updated manager
4566 May 4, 2002   Dave Jackson   Pin @ Atn
4567 May 5, 2002   Alan Boodman   Week 8 begins
4568 May 5, 2002   Scott Campbell   LA at NY
4569 May 5, 2002   Brandon Colvin   ATL CM
4570 May 5, 2002   Alan Boodman   KCA-OAA autoplay
4571 May 5, 2002   Alan Boodman   Week 7 autoplays
4572 May 6, 2002   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees at White Sox
4573 May 6, 2002   Alan Boodman   league opening: 1952
4574 May 6, 2002   Ben Lea   RE: [SmileyList] Yankees at White Sox
4575 May 6, 2002   Alan Boodman   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at White Sox
4576 May 7, 2002   Ben Lea   White Sox @ Twins
4577 May 7, 2002   Michael Tomeo   boston at milwaukee
4578 May 7, 2002   Frank Pennylegion   Re: [SmileyList] league opening: 1952
4579 May 9, 2002   Michael Tomeo   san diego at san fransisco
4580 May 9, 2002   Raul Camacho   SFN@CHN


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Message #: 4480
Message from: Frank Pennylegion
Sent: Apr 16, 2002
Subject: Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations

One aspect that isn't included is the fact that several players are traded because they won't be on the team the following year anyway. Rather than let a quality player like Marty Pattin go.... the Brewers will be dealing him before the all-star break and we may only get pennies in return. It is really fascinating to look at!
 
Frank
Milwaukee
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations

There's a link at the main page of the SMILEY website called "Trade Evaluations".  The page shows, for each trade ever made in SMILEY, what the involved players "Win Shares" are, for the length of their contracts.  I also substituted in the actual players selected with the draft picks that were acquired, so now we can see how those trades involving draft picks really worked out.
 
"Win Shares" are Bill James' latest invention, and is an attempt to reduce a season's worth of player stats to one integer.  It is true that this system is designed to evaluate players in real baseball (as opposed to Strat, which as we all know, often bears little resemblance to real baseball), but the system still isn't likely to call an All-Star a bum or vice-versa. 
 
IIRC, the ratings are meant to correspond to a rough definition of quality as follows:
 
over 30: MVP-caliber season
20-29: All-Star-type season
10-19: decent starting player or pitcher (or reliever)
0-9: part-timer, or just a low quality player, or both
 
Some trades appear to have been made where one of the participants wasn't fully aware of the future value of the players involved (like that idiot who traded away Johnny Bench, for example); in the future, I'll probably provide the trade committee the Win Shares for all players in a proposed trade.  The committee doesn't have to use the information for anything, but they might find it instructive.
 
Alan


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