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4480 |
Apr 16, 2002 |
Frank Pennylegion |
Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations |
4481 |
Apr 16, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations |
4482 |
Apr 16, 2002 |
Frank Pennylegion |
Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations |
4483 |
Apr 16, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
LA at Cin |
4484 |
Apr 17, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Re: [SmileyList] LA at Cin |
4485 |
Apr 17, 2002 |
Raul Camacho |
SFN@MON |
4486 |
Apr 18, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
how trades work |
4487 |
Apr 18, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
WAACHA32 |
4488 |
Apr 18, 2002 |
Michael Skiffington |
baa v kca |
4489 |
Apr 17, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
Re: [SmileyList] LA at Cin |
4490 |
Apr 19, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Re: [SmileyList] LA at Cin |
4491 |
Apr 19, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Reds @ Dodgers |
4492 |
Apr 19, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
Padres and Giants |
4493 |
Apr 19, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Yanks at Senators |
4494 |
Apr 19, 2002 |
Bob Lind |
MBB@OAA |
4495 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Rich Anderson |
SLN @ SDN |
4496 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Week 5 update |
4497 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
CUBS CM |
4498 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Tigers @ Red Sox |
4499 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
boston at baltimore |
4500 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
RE: [SmileyList] boston at baltimore |
4501 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Dave Jackson |
Pin @ Nyn |
4502 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
NYN@ATN27 |
4503 |
Apr 20, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
Mets CM6 |
4504 |
Apr 21, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
Montreal at St. Louis Week 5 |
4505 |
Apr 21, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Week 6 begins |
4506 |
Apr 21, 2002 |
Mike Rodriguez |
KC @ BOS |
4507 |
Apr 21, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 begins |
4508 |
Apr 21, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
LA at NY |
4509 |
Apr 21, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
Cincinnati at Montreal Week 6 |
4510 |
Apr 21, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
Updated Montreal Manager |
4511 |
Apr 22, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
Re: [SmileyList] MNA@WAA |
4512 |
Apr 22, 2002 |
Frank Pennylegion |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 begins |
4513 |
Apr 22, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Re: [SmileyList] Updated Montreal Manager |
4514 |
Apr 22, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
White Sox @ A's |
4515 |
Apr 23, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Padres @ Reds |
4516 |
Apr 23, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Reds @ Expos |
4517 |
Apr 23, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
WAAKCA39 |
4518 |
Apr 24, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
STUPID CUBS BULLPEN |
4519 |
Apr 24, 2002 |
Raul Camacho |
SFN@SLN |
4520 |
Apr 25, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Tigers @ Brewers |
4521 |
Apr 25, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
boston at minnesota |
4522 |
Apr 26, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Yankees at Tigers |
4523 |
Apr 26, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
road vs home record |
4524 |
Apr 26, 2002 |
Brandon Colvin |
ATNPIN |
4525 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Rich Anderson |
SLN @ ATN |
4526 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Week 6 update |
4527 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Bob Lind |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 update |
4528 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 6 update |
4529 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Michael Skiffington |
BAA v CHA |
4530 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
NYN@SDN36 |
4531 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
Montreal at Chicago Week 6 |
4532 |
Apr 27, 2002 |
Dave Jackson |
Pin @ Sfn |
4533 |
Apr 28, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Week 7 begins |
4534 |
Apr 28, 2002 |
Mike Rodriguez |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 begins |
4535 |
Apr 28, 2002 |
Mike Rodriguez |
KC Manager |
4536 |
Apr 28, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
Montreal Manager Week 7 |
4537 |
Apr 28, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
Montreal at San Francisco Week 7 |
4538 |
Apr 28, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
LA CM |
4539 |
Apr 29, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Export |
4540 |
Apr 29, 2002 |
Brandon Colvin |
Re: [SmileyList] LA CM |
4541 |
Apr 29, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
White Sox @ Senators |
4542 |
Apr 29, 2002 |
Frank Pennylegion |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 begins |
4543 |
Apr 29, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Tigers @ White Sox |
4544 |
Apr 29, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
LA at Chicago |
4545 |
Apr 30, 2002 |
Raul Camacho |
SFN@PIN |
4546 |
Apr 30, 2002 |
Raul Camacho |
SF HAL |
4547 |
Apr 30, 2002 |
beckjzz |
A nice game |
4548 |
Apr 30, 2002 |
Steve Bivens |
SMILEY Virus Warning |
4549 |
Apr 30, 2002 |
Larry Cupp |
waabaa46 |
4550 |
Apr 30, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY Virus Warning |
4551 |
Apr 30, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 begins |
4552 |
May 1, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Reds @ Expos |
4553 |
May 2, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Yankees at Twins |
4554 |
May 2, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
SMILEY web site will be down |
4555 |
May 2, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
boston at kc |
4556 |
May 3, 2002 |
Michael Skiffington |
BAA v OAA |
4557 |
May 3, 2002 |
Mike Rodriguez |
KC @ Mil |
4558 |
May 3, 2002 |
Rick Ramacier |
MNA@BOA |
4559 |
May 4, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Week 7 update |
4560 |
May 4, 2002 |
Alan Bosslet |
Re: [SmileyList] Week 7 update |
4561 |
May 4, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
san diego and st louis |
4562 |
May 4, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
boston manager |
4563 |
May 4, 2002 |
Rich Anderson |
SLN @ NYN |
4564 |
May 4, 2002 |
Ray Cappocchi |
NYN@CIN43 |
4565 |
May 4, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Yankees updated manager |
4566 |
May 4, 2002 |
Dave Jackson |
Pin @ Atn |
4567 |
May 5, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Week 8 begins |
4568 |
May 5, 2002 |
Scott Campbell |
LA at NY |
4569 |
May 5, 2002 |
Brandon Colvin |
ATL CM |
4570 |
May 5, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
KCA-OAA autoplay |
4571 |
May 5, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Week 7 autoplays |
4572 |
May 6, 2002 |
Chris Kohlwes |
Yankees at White Sox |
4573 |
May 6, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
league opening: 1952 |
4574 |
May 6, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
RE: [SmileyList] Yankees at White Sox |
4575 |
May 6, 2002 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at White Sox |
4576 |
May 7, 2002 |
Ben Lea |
White Sox @ Twins |
4577 |
May 7, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
boston at milwaukee |
4578 |
May 7, 2002 |
Frank Pennylegion |
Re: [SmileyList] league opening: 1952 |
4579 |
May 9, 2002 |
Michael Tomeo |
san diego at san fransisco |
4580 |
May 9, 2002 |
Raul Camacho |
SFN@CHN |
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Message #: 4480
Message from: Frank Pennylegion
Sent: Apr 16, 2002
Subject: Re: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations
One aspect that isn't included is the fact that several players are traded because they won't be on the team the following year anyway. Rather than let a quality player like Marty Pattin go.... the Brewers will be dealing him before the all-star break and we may only get pennies in return. It is really fascinating to look at! Frank Milwaukee ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: [SmileyList] SMILEY trade evaluations
There's a link at the main page of the SMILEY website called "Trade Evaluations". The page shows, for each trade ever made in SMILEY, what the involved players "Win Shares" are, for the length of their contracts. I also substituted in the actual players selected with the draft picks that were acquired, so now we can see how those trades involving draft picks really worked out. "Win Shares" are Bill James' latest invention, and is an attempt to reduce a season's worth of player stats to one integer. It is true that this system is designed to evaluate players in real baseball (as opposed to Strat, which as we all know, often bears little resemblance to real baseball), but the system still isn't likely to call an All-Star a bum or vice-versa. IIRC, the ratings are meant to correspond to a rough definition of quality as follows: over 30: MVP-caliber season 20-29: All-Star-type season 10-19: decent starting player or pitcher (or reliever) 0-9: part-timer, or just a low quality player, or both Some trades appear to have been made where one of the participants wasn't fully aware of the future value of the players involved (like that idiot who traded away Johnny Bench, for example); in the future, I'll probably provide the trade committee the Win Shares for all players in a proposed trade. The committee doesn't have to use the information for anything, but they might find it instructive. Alan
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