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8758 Mar 21, 2004   Steve Bivens   RE: [SmileyList] Pitcher Fatigue Question
8759 Mar 21, 2004   Steve Bivens   RE: [SmileyList] Warthen, not Warthan.
8760 Mar 21, 2004   Alan Boodman   Re: [SmileyList] Pitcher Fatigue Question
8761 Mar 21, 2004   Jonathan Fellows   Re: [SmileyList] Pitcher Fatigue Question
8762 Mar 21, 2004   Mike Rodriguez   Re: [SmileyList] Pitcher Fatigue Question
8763 Mar 21, 2004   Steve Bivens   RE: [SmileyList] Pitcher Fatigue Question
8764 Mar 21, 2004   Mike Rodriguez   Re: [SmileyList] Pitcher Fatigue Question
8765 Mar 21, 2004   Alan Boodman   apologies to the Braves
8766 Mar 21, 2004   Thomas Austad   Braves @ Pittsburgh
8767 Mar 21, 2004   Darren Dawson   Re: [SmileyList] Braves @ Pittsburgh
8768 Mar 21, 2004   Ben Lea   White Sox @ Royals
8769 Mar 21, 2004   Jonathan Fellows   Mets begin road season by splitting 4 with St Louis
8770 Mar 21, 2004   Mike Rodriguez   KC @ OAK
8771 Mar 21, 2004   Mike Rodriguez   Openings in WIFF Football league
8772 Mar 21, 2004   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees versus Orioles
8773 Mar 21, 2004   Thomas Austad   Braves @ Pirates part Two
8774 Mar 21, 2004   Michael Tomeo   boa@nya
8775 Mar 21, 2004   Darren Dawson   Pittsburgh @ Chicago -- April 7-9, 1975
8776 Mar 22, 2004   Jonathan Fellows   Re: [SmileyList] Pittsburgh @ Chicago -- April 7-9, 1975
8777 Mar 22, 2004   Michael Tomeo   break up the padres
8778 Mar 22, 2004   Alan Boodman   Fw: [SmileyList] Pittsburgh @ Chicago -- April 7-9, 1975
8779 Mar 22, 2004   Bob Mittleman   Emailing: 1975 Smiley SFN @ SDN 4.10-13.1975
8780 Mar 23, 2004   Alan Boodman   approved trade
8781 Mar 23, 2004   Michael Rescigno   BAA@CHA WK1.zip
8782 Mar 24, 2004   Andrew Kennedy   To SMILEY and Late 20th Century League members-from KCA and OAA
8783 Mar 24, 2004   Billy Vanson   results of Los Angeles @ Atlanta
8784 Mar 24, 2004   Larry Cupp   Texas takes 2 of 3 in Minneapolis
8785 Mar 24, 2004   Thomas Austad   Re: [SmileyList] results of Los Angeles @ Atlanta
8786 Mar 24, 2004   Mike Rodriguez   Fw: [STRAT-BB] SOM has just announced patch V9.01
8787 Mar 24, 2004   Jonathan Fellows   Fw: SOM Patch
8788 Mar 25, 2004   Derek Jones   Cards - Giants Week 1
8789 Mar 25, 2004   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [SmileyList] OAA-TEA WEEK 1
8790 Mar 26, 2004   Alan Boodman   v9.01 patch
8791 Mar 26, 2004   Andrew Kennedy   OAA CM WK 2
8792 Mar 26, 2004   Ben Lea   Catcher swap?
8793 Mar 26, 2004   Dennis Van Langen   Detroit at Boston
8794 Mar 26, 2004   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees CM week 2
8795 Mar 26, 2004   Dennis Van Langen   DEA @ BOA_04-07
8796 Mar 26, 2004   Dennis Van Langen   Re: [SmileyList] DEA @ BOA_04-07
8797 Mar 26, 2004   Dave Jackson   Brewers @ Detroit
8798 Mar 27, 2004   Alan Boodman   Week 1 update
8799 Mar 27, 2004   Jim Taglia   Twins at Brewers
8800 Mar 27, 2004   Alan Bosslet   Cubs Expos Split(Kingman hits 3 HR's in game 4)
8801 Mar 27, 2004   Steve Bivens   [No subject]
8802 Mar 28, 2004   Alan Boodman   Week 2 begins
8803 Mar 28, 2004   Michael Rescigno   Baltimore wk 2 cm
8804 Mar 28, 2004   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Week 2 begins
8805 Mar 28, 2004   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Giants
8806 Mar 28, 2004   Alan Boodman   approved trade
8807 Mar 28, 2004   Billy Vanson   Re: [SmileyList] Week 2 begins
8808 Mar 28, 2004   Billy Vanson   Los Angeles in week 2
8809 Mar 28, 2004   Dennis Van Langen   DEA @ KCA_08-10
8810 Mar 28, 2004   Billy Vanson   RESEND of Los Angeles in week 2
8811 Mar 28, 2004   Thomas Austad   Braves @ Reds
8812 Mar 28, 2004   Ben Lea   White Sox @ Rangers
8813 Mar 28, 2004   Ben Lea   Need a not-very-good starter?
8814 Mar 28, 2004   Dennis Van Langen   Re: [SmileyList] White Sox @ Rangers
8815 Mar 28, 2004   Jim Taglia   Twins @ A's
8816 Mar 28, 2004   Mike Rodriguez   KC @ MIN
8817 Mar 28, 2004   Larry Cupp   Re: [SmileyList] White Sox @ Rangers
8818 Mar 28, 2004   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees at Tigers
8819 Mar 28, 2004   Michael Tomeo   boston manager
8820 Mar 28, 2004   Larry Cupp   Re: [SmileyList] boston manager
8821 Mar 29, 2004   Alan Boodman   Fw: White Sox @ Rangers files
8822 Mar 30, 2004   Michael Tomeo   boa@mla
8823 Mar 30, 2004   Jonathan Fellows   Cubs and Mets split
8824 Mar 31, 2004   Billy Vanson   results of Los Angeles @ Montreal
8825 Mar 31, 2004   Steve Bivens   Expos at Pirates Week 2
8826 Mar 31, 2004   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [SmileyList] OAA @ CHA Week 2
8827 Mar 31, 2004   Larry Cupp   Texas wins 3 of 4 @ Fenway
8828 Mar 31, 2004   Andrew Kennedy   Re: OAA CM Week 3
8829 Mar 31, 2004   Chris Kohlwes   Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8830 Apr 1, 2004   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8831 Apr 1, 2004   Derek Jones   Cards - Mets week 2
8832 Apr 1, 2004   Alan Boodman   approved trade
8833 Apr 1, 2004   Chris Kohlwes   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8834 Apr 1, 2004   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8835 Apr 1, 2004   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8836 Apr 1, 2004   Alan Bosslet   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8837 Apr 1, 2004   Dave Jackson   Brewers @ Baltimore
8838 Apr 2, 2004   Michael Tomeo   sdn@atn
8839 Apr 2, 2004   Thomas Austad   Braves week 3 CM
8840 Apr 2, 2004   Bob Mittleman   Emailing: 1975 Smiley SFN @ LAN
8841 Apr 3, 2004   Billy Vanson   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8842 Apr 3, 2004   Jonathan Fellows   Re: [SmileyList] Yankees at Devil Rays (At the Tokyo Dome)
8843 Apr 3, 2004   Michael Rescigno   BAA@NYA WK 2.zip
8844 Apr 3, 2004   Michael Rescigno   Baltimore wk 3 cm
8845 Apr 3, 2004   Darren Dawson   Pittsburgh @ St Louis -- April 17-20
8846 Apr 4, 2004   Alan Boodman   CHN-SDN autoplay
8847 Apr 4, 2004   Derek Jones   Re: Pittsburgh @ St Louis -- April 17-20
8848 Apr 4, 2004   Alan Boodman   Week 3 begins
8849 Apr 4, 2004   Derek Jones   New CM for St. Louis
8850 Apr 4, 2004   Michael Rescigno   REVISED BALTIMORE WK 3 CM
8851 Apr 4, 2004   Thomas Austad   Braves @ Mets
8852 Apr 4, 2004   Jim Taglia   Minnesota Twins updated manager
8853 Apr 4, 2004   Steve Bivens   Montreal Manager Week 3
8854 Apr 4, 2004   Dennis Van Langen   DEA at BAA_15-17
8855 Apr 4, 2004   Alan Boodman   Reds @ Expos
8856 Apr 4, 2004   Alan Boodman   Fw: [SmileyList] Reds @ Expos
8857 Apr 4, 2004   Andrew Kennedy   Re: [SmileyList]Week 3 OAA_BOA
8858 Apr 4, 2004   Alan Bosslet   Emailing: chn7503.MGR

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Message #: 8758
Message from: Steve Bivens
Sent: Mar 21, 2004
Subject: RE: [SmileyList] Pitcher Fatigue Question

I have answered my own question.  The closer rule is/was turned on.  Warthan has a closer rating of (0).  That’s why the 20.

Are we using the closer rule in SMILEY?  I don’t believe we have in the past, but maybe I have forgotten.

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

 

From: Steve Bivens [mailto:oslo79@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:29 AM
To: SmileyList
Subject: [ SmileyList ] Pitcher Fatigue Question

 

I saw something in the first game of the 1975 season that troubles me.  Expos at Mets:

 

It is the bottom of the eighth inning with the Mets batting.  Runners at first and third with one out, Expos leading 6 to 4.  Mets bring in Jose Cruz to pinch hit.  I counter by bring in Dan Warthan (MY CLOSER) to relief Dale Murray. 

 

When Warthan enters the game, his pitch count is 20.  This seemed too low for a pitcher who is rated relief (3) and pitched 187 innings.  But what can I do at this point but continue on:

 

Warthan gets Cruz to hit into a double play.

 

In the bottom of the ninth:

 

Staub pops out.

Bench singles.

Billy Williams hits into a force play at second.

 

At this point, Warthans pitch count is 22/20.  I am uncomfortable with this number, but I have Warthan going against Remy.

 

Jerry Remy singles, Williams goes to third.  Now Warthan is 26/20.  At this point, I go to the mound and check Warthan’s fatigue level.  It is at “2”.

 

I understand that at 26/20 the pitcher might have a low fatigue factor.  But why was Warthan’s pitch count at 20 when he entered the game?  Is there an aspect to the pitch counts and a pitcher’s rating I am missing here?  Obviously, I need to know the answers to this question as it effects who will be my closer.

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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