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| 95 |
Sep 6, 2003 |
Thomas Austad |
Re: The future (history?) of Pre-Smiley |
| 96 |
Sep 6, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Rescigno takes PHN |
| 97 |
Sep 6, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
PHN selects Lee Bales, the switch-hitter from Los Angeles, CA |
| 98 |
Sep 6, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
but seriously folks.... |
| 99 |
Sep 6, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] but seriously folks.... |
| 100 |
Sep 6, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: but seriously folks.... |
| 101 |
Sep 6, 2003 |
Steve Bivens |
Poll |
| 102 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Deeper Draft? Fact or Fiction? |
| 103 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Barry Davis |
Re: [PreSmiley] Deeper Draft? Fact or Fiction? |
| 104 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Draft Order Ideas |
| 105 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Deeper Draft? Fact or Fiction? |
| 106 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Barry Davis |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: Deeper Draft? Fact or Fiction? |
| 107 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
BTW |
| 108 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
the team draft continues (eventually) |
| 109 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Gary Dewing |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: Where's RESCIGNO? |
| 110 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Serpentine Dratt? |
| 111 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Bivens |
RE: [PreSmiley] Serpentine Dratt? |
| 112 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Serpentine Dratt? |
| 113 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Bivens |
RE: [PreSmiley] Re: Serpentine Dratt? |
| 114 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Serpentine Dratt? |
| 115 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Bivens |
RE: [PreSmiley] Re: Serpentine Dratt? |
| 116 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Serpentine Dratt? |
| 117 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Bivens |
RE: [PreSmiley] Re: Serpentine Dratt? |
| 118 |
Sep 7, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
test |
| 119 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
team draft continues.... now |
| 120 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Jonathan Fellows |
Jon Fellows picks the Chicago White Sox |
| 121 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] Jon Fellows picks the Chicago White Sox |
| 122 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Gary Dewing |
Re: [PreSmiley] Jon Fellows picks the Chicago White Sox |
| 123 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Tom Austad is now up |
| 124 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
PreSmiley@yahoogroups.com |
New poll for PreSmiley |
| 125 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Alan, please check your e-mail |
| 126 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
relievers & HAL |
| 127 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Jonathan Fellows |
Re: New poll for PreSmiley |
| 128 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] Alan, please check your e-mail |
| 129 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: New poll for PreSmiley |
| 130 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Thomas Austad |
Re: Tom Austad is now up |
| 131 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
SteveD takes DETROIT |
| 132 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Thomas Austad |
Re: [PreSmiley] SteveD takes DETROIT |
| 133 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Here's the complete list |
| 134 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
web page updated |
| 135 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Jonathan Fellows |
Re: web page updated |
| 136 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: web page updated |
| 137 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Rick Ramacier |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: Tom Austad is now up |
| 138 |
Sep 8, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Cubs fringe cuts |
| 139 |
Sep 9, 2003 |
Gary Dewing |
Re: [PreSmiley] Cubs fringe cuts - Orioles |
| 140 |
Sep 9, 2003 |
Larry Cupp |
Redleg cuts. |
| 141 |
Sep 9, 2003 |
Michael Tomeo |
RE: [PreSmiley] A's cuts |
| 142 |
Sep 9, 2003 |
Rick Ramacier |
Re: [PreSmiley] Twins fringe cuts |
| 143 |
Sep 9, 2003 |
Barry Davis |
Atlanta Fringe Players |
| 144 |
Sep 10, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Can we decide draft tie-breakers now? |
| 145 |
Sep 10, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] Can we decide draft tie-breakers now? |
| 146 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
1967 files have been updated |
| 147 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Jonathan Fellows |
Re: 1967 files have been updated |
| 148 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: 1967 files have been updated |
| 149 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
another scheduling issue |
| 150 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Jonathan Fellows |
White Sox cuts |
| 151 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Thomas Austad |
Draft |
| 152 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Gary Dewing |
Re: [PreSmiley] Draft |
| 153 |
Sep 11, 2003 |
Dennis Van Langen |
Pirates cuts |
| 154 |
Sep 12, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
DETROIT cuts |
| 155 |
Sep 12, 2003 |
Larry Cupp |
No cuts |
| 156 |
Sep 12, 2003 |
Darren Dawson |
SF fringe cuts |
| 157 |
Sep 13, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] No cuts |
| 158 |
Sep 13, 2003 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [PreSmiley] No cuts |
| 159 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Michael Rescigno |
Cardinals Cuts |
| 160 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
1967 fringe cuts |
| 161 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
votes are still open |
| 162 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Jonathan Fellows |
Questions regarding two-carded players |
| 163 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Questions regarding two-carded players |
| 164 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
If I were the NY Mets GM/owner... |
| 165 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Christopher Colucci |
Mets Pick |
| 166 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Mets Pick |
| 167 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Dennis Van Langen |
draft order list |
| 168 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: draft order list |
| 169 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
draft order ties in subsequent rounds |
| 170 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
computer manager lineup question |
| 171 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] draft order ties in subsequent rounds |
| 172 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] computer manager lineup question |
| 173 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] Questions regarding two-carded players |
| 174 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: Mets Pick |
| 175 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Mets Pick |
| 176 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: Mets Pick |
| 177 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Mets Pick |
| 178 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [PreSmiley] Re: Mets Pick |
| 179 |
Sep 14, 2003 |
Steve Bivens |
Washington Senator Fringe cuts |
| 180 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Michael Tomeo |
Kansas City picks.... |
| 181 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Where's Billy Vanson????? |
| 182 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Billy Vanson |
Re: [PreSmiley] Where's Billy Vanson????? |
| 183 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
1967 files updated |
| 184 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
draft page is up |
| 185 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: NY Yankees selection |
| 186 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Billy Vanson |
NY Yankees selection |
| 187 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Where's Dave Jackson???? |
| 188 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Larry Cupp |
Re: [PreSmiley] draft page is up |
| 189 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
Re: [PreSmiley] draft page is up |
| 190 |
Sep 15, 2003 |
Gary Dewing |
Re: [PreSmiley] Where's Dave Jackson???? |
| 191 |
Sep 16, 2003 |
Dave Jackson |
RE: [PreSmiley] Where's Dave Jackson???? |
| 192 |
Sep 16, 2003 |
Dave Jackson |
RE: [PreSmiley] Where's Dave Jackson???? |
| 193 |
Sep 16, 2003 |
Steve Dewing |
Re: Where's Dave Jackson???? |
| 194 |
Sep 16, 2003 |
Alan Boodman |
1967 draft begins; Orioles are on the clock |
| 195 |
Sep 16, 2003 |
Gary Dewing |
Re: [PreSmiley] 1967 draft begins; Orioles are on the clock |
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Message #: 95
Message from: Thomas Austad
Sent: Sep 6, 2003
Subject: Re: The future (history?) of Pre-Smiley
Alan - You make a good point about trades and I agree that we will
probably see more dealing in this league than in SMILEY. Also, I must
have missed the piece about being able to trade draft picks. That
will make the "extortion" that much more fun! It will be the opposite
of how it was in real life, with owners needing to actually give up
players rather than a wad of cash to acquire the big guys. Sounds
different and good.
Tom
--- In PreSmiley@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Boodman" <alan.boodman@v...>
wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> You make a good point about the fact that working backwards is not
the same as going forward with regard to the rookies. One factor
that nobody has mentioned yet is trades.
>
> I would like to think that Babe Ruth and others like him will be
available in the drafts, but many of them probably will not be.
Thanks to the "Dick Allen Rule" (DAR), the Yankees have maximum
incentive to trade for Ruth early, and the same logic applies to
every other player at that level. That could be interpreted as an
argument for doing away with the DAR, but I'm not suggesting that at
all; I'm just pointing out that the resemblance between the real
teams and our teams could be significantly greater than we think.
>
> With draft picks allowed to be traded in Pre-SMILEY, I anticipate a
more wide-open league as far as deals being made, and I will be
greatly surprised many if the Hall-of-Fame types do not somehow find
their way "home". Not all of them can, of course, but I suspect a
majority will do so.
>
> While I am not the most pro-trading guy in the world, I like that
approach better than claims, since Ruth's "rookie" team will benefit
in a deal (by getting *something* for him). Since the Yankees cannot
relay on getting Ruth automatically (via a claim, for the
comparatively bargain-basement price of a #1 pick), they will not be
so hasty to abandon trade efforts.
>
> I look forward to that sort of thing - a team taking Ruth in the
1935 draft for the express prurpose of extortion. :-)
>
> Seriously, both sides have every reason to work out an equitable
deal. The team with the Babe in '35 is looking to fill some holes,
and the Yankees rationale is obvious. With deals like this being
common, the drafts may not be as deep in Ruths and Spahns and Kiners
as I may have once thought, but they should still be pretty good.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> --- In PreSmiley@yahoogroups.com, "counselordude2000"
<taustad@m...>
> wrote:
> Alan, I guess it's just the idea that we are going backward in
time,
> so players aren't actually rookies with the teams that get them
> as "rookies" anyway. Add that to the fact that they probably played
> their best seasons for a team other than the team they will be
> a "rookie" for and we are very far away from resembling the actual
> teams, much farther than SMILEY. I understand your degrees of
> resemblance. A majority of teams will have close to no resemblance
> to
> their real teams with the "rookies" they will receieve in our
> league.
> Guys will rarely play with the team they made their mark on except
> in
> the case of Mantles and Koufax's. I'm in either way, but I just see
> this as making the division of teams even more significant. I also
> agree that the draft's will be deeper, so teams will have more of
an
> opportunity to build. Just wanted to clarify my point of view.
>
> Tom |
